How close is the Swordfish 24F compiler?
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How close is the Swordfish 24F compiler?
I've got a new project in the works. It'll be a challenge to make it work on an 18F. Should I hold out for the Swordfish 24F compiler?
I have been waiting for over a year and a half on the SF 24F/H compiler - and am still interested when/if it is released.
That said, once you start using the PIC24F/H/dsPIC33, you will wonder why one would even use PIC18 - there really are huge advantages with the 16-bit core devices. I have been using the mikroBASIC compiler for almost 2 years now and have not regretted making the move.
That said, once you start using the PIC24F/H/dsPIC33, you will wonder why one would even use PIC18 - there really are huge advantages with the 16-bit core devices. I have been using the mikroBASIC compiler for almost 2 years now and have not regretted making the move.
I own the mikroBasic 24F compiler, but I keep making excuses to stick with SF and 18F's. I can't seem to get used to the mikroB IDE. I like how SF just lets me put files in a folder to make a project. mikroB wants to manage all those aspects as well. I end up just making a mess out of things when I need to make special tweaks to a library for a particular job.
Last edited by JWinters on Sat Feb 06, 2010 11:45 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Dear rmteo and JWinters,
I am backing both of you up! As with you people, I am looooo...onging for the arrival of SF 24F/H. I am already at the top speed of my PIC 18F and still the project requires something more. The juice is already out... The thought of learning MikroBasic 24F just holds me back from it. Hope David will announce something soon.
Regards,
Liak
I am backing both of you up! As with you people, I am looooo...onging for the arrival of SF 24F/H. I am already at the top speed of my PIC 18F and still the project requires something more. The juice is already out... The thought of learning MikroBasic 24F just holds me back from it. Hope David will announce something soon.
Regards,
Liak
I don't have any major issues with using different compilers - they just take a little getting used to. In fact, I have (and use) 3 of them.
a. for those occasions when a PIC16 is called for (<14 pins, low cost) I use the Oshonsoft compiler (although I have mikroBASIC for PIC16 as well).
b. for PIC18 - SF of course, but much less often these days as the 16-bit core devices are my platform of choice.
c. for PIC24/dsPIC33 - mikroBASIC.
a. for those occasions when a PIC16 is called for (<14 pins, low cost) I use the Oshonsoft compiler (although I have mikroBASIC for PIC16 as well).
b. for PIC18 - SF of course, but much less often these days as the 16-bit core devices are my platform of choice.
c. for PIC24/dsPIC33 - mikroBASIC.
I have learned a lot from open SF libraries. I learn by example. Reading the datasheets only takes me so far. It's great to see some of the more exotic microcontroller features in real working code.
I was going to use mikroB and a 24F PIC with their Ethernet library until I actually started poking around with it. All the source code is locked up and I wasn't able to make my own custom changes for my project. It's not like I wanted to make drastic changes. I just needed to adjust some config settings, but apparently they don't want to share.
I was going to use mikroB and a 24F PIC with their Ethernet library until I actually started poking around with it. All the source code is locked up and I wasn't able to make my own custom changes for my project. It's not like I wanted to make drastic changes. I just needed to adjust some config settings, but apparently they don't want to share.
Call me desperate, I just installed MicroChips C for the 24F parts. I hate C but no other choice and to be honest there are so many lib's out there you only have to learn the basics of C as most all the code is written and just needs modified. I'm BASIC to the core, I use VB(only if I have to) and PowerBasic (The BEST, fast,faster than C/C++) for PC apps. PDS and SF for Pic's. PureBasic for MAC's.
SF or PDS for the 24' 32's would be great but I can't wait. I'd rather use C than the Mikro basic stuff, just too buggy.
The good news is if your clever you can do things with the 18F's that you thought you must have the 24F's. But Its pain and not cost effective.
Just my thoughts
Doug
SF or PDS for the 24' 32's would be great but I can't wait. I'd rather use C than the Mikro basic stuff, just too buggy.
The good news is if your clever you can do things with the 18F's that you thought you must have the 24F's. But Its pain and not cost effective.
Just my thoughts
Doug
Doug
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Over here http://www.sfcompiler.co.uk/wiki/pmwiki ... tedDevices it says several J50's are supported.